«Was du über Musk und Karp sagst, ist Bullshit»: Roger Köppel im Gespräch mit Wladimir Solowjow

00:00:00: There are millions of Europeans who want peace, Who think we're on the wrong path.

00:00:05: Here's the faces... ...of teens that were killed in a last couple weeks.

00:00:10: Who is behind those deaths?

00:00:11: It's Elon Musk and another person Alex Karp.

00:00:14: Why?

00:00:15: Because Karp and Musk And lots others thinks That they will affect psychological conditions Of Russians By killing their kids!

00:00:24: I think your theory with all due respect Is totally rubbish.

00:00:35: Well, Roger first of all I have to say that you very bravely spoke with the Dutch war mongers trying put some sense into their heads.

00:00:49: Trying tell them that catastrophe as now seems almost inevitable That we are moving towards World War Conflict Of The Epic Scale that no one even can right now realize.

00:01:13: what are they doing.

00:01:15: What was the response on your speech?

00:01:19: Good morning, Vladimir!

00:01:21: Indeed this is a topic and also thanks to you when your clear assessments of things let me put it... Let me phrase like these concerns are growing And I mean, we are in the middle of a fog of war.

00:01:43: It's very hard to know things especially when you look at it from outside but... ...I'm really concerned about developments and i think that were actually on a dangerous path.

00:02:01: analysis and this is like the worst case scenario we are heading.

00:02:04: what's your reaction?

00:02:05: I think it very important to realize also for you viewers.

00:02:12: And for that Russian audience.

00:02:16: there is growing massive concern in Germany as well, and we see a huge cognitive dissonance between the rhetoric of some of the leaders which are very weak, and you know the whole perception of the public.

00:02:38: I would say those people who take it seriously they have the same fears as we do.

00:02:47: And then there's some that will say well no come on don't overdo.

00:02:52: this is out-of-question.

00:02:53: Of course a lot of people are brainwashed i wishful thinking and very one-sided propaganda in the west.

00:03:04: Which makes our program i dare to say quite historical.

00:03:09: that we have here, I don't want roe stated but what do you have?

00:03:14: your conversation which is really unique?

00:03:17: And it's not just you know two media guys.

00:03:20: You know, feeling great about communicating is really important to have this kind of exchange in order open the eyes.

00:03:27: So I received standing ovations for a very gloomy speech which was addressing all critical issues and perspectives because it was at Reichstag In Germany, it was in front of the largest opposition party.

00:03:47: You can be sure that I urged German politicians to address these issues... ...in public arena and political arena in order to bring to sense their leadership because they are stumbling into a war which is not up to handling.

00:04:13: This is not serious politics.

00:04:15: we see and the great problem that i notice in europe also partially in switzerland.

00:04:22: That there was not just you know a total blockade of diplomacy conversation with russia but it's all so within europe, conversation has been blocked.

00:04:36: Everybody who brings up these concerns and says come on listen,listen to what Russia is saying.

00:04:42: It doesn't mean we have to accept it but you have to take notice with them after taking into account then your of course branded as a soulless brainless, put-in propagandist as this kind of fifth column on the forces of evil.

00:04:59: And it is a very dangerous development and we didn't have that since nineteen forty five.

00:05:05: We never had during cold war.

00:05:09: This means that leaders in Europe are somehow in black hole for their own choosing As far as information is concerned, but Russia has to notice and I think it's important to push through here.

00:05:25: There are millions of Europeans who want peace?

00:05:30: Who thinks we're on the wrong path.

00:05:32: It's not The way we should go.

00:05:35: And Of course We see also that whole you could say the motivation of young people To fight in the army.

00:05:45: Its nowhere.

00:05:46: I mean these strategists, these militarists without military are in an orbit of recklessness which i honestly haven't seen for a long time and that can only explain it by the fact... By The Good Old Goethe who said nothing is harder to bear than a series of good days.

00:06:13: What we have confronted here of moralism, self-aggrandizement decadence due to material success in the last thirty years but now we have sobering effects on reality and recession.

00:06:33: This is my last point.

00:06:34: it's very important for people like you communicators journalists to enlighten and to show what's at stake.

00:06:47: And you should sometimes try to do it in a mild language, because then you don't force the other side up the guns as well.

00:06:56: Provocation is very good!

00:06:58: You are master of this.

00:06:59: But sometime... A milder rhetoric or more concerned rhetoric that was displayed just before will probably be more efficient.

00:07:08: so thats the central assessment standing innovations in Germany, Berlin and the Reichstag for such a speech which at least gives some silver lining of kind.

00:07:26: I told you before we started this program that... And i do apologize because emotionally it's going to be hard!

00:07:47: Mothers and fathers in Europe, And the United States.

00:07:54: Here are faces that I am showing you right now.

00:07:58: Here is a face of teens That were killed In last couple weeks.

00:08:07: Storobelsk.

00:08:10: Kids who was killed by twenty-one of them From fourteen to eighteen years old.

00:08:21: Twenty one out of eighty six.

00:08:26: They were killed.

00:08:28: Gorlovka, May twenty-five.

00:08:32: Due to the drone attack four kids were killed.

00:08:38: they were born in two thousand twelve and two thousand fourteen may thirty.

00:08:43: first genichesk.

00:08:48: The boy was killed.

00:08:49: he was six years old.

00:08:52: Ukrainians attacked just apartment complex.

00:08:57: June.

00:08:58: nineteen Zhukovsky.

00:09:00: it's near Moscow.

00:09:03: She was in the house with her grandmother.

00:09:10: She died on flames.

00:09:14: June, twenty-fifth Crimea.

00:09:19: Stanislav Pruglov.

00:09:27: He was on the ninth grade of college.

00:09:31: He was killed by Bryansk.

00:09:34: June, Twenty-Fifth Drone attacked a civilian car.

00:09:38: A twenty three year old driver and fifteen years old girl were killed.

00:09:48: They had nothing to do with Russian military at all.

00:09:52: Yesterday, Yegorovsk it's near Moscow.

00:09:59: little a year and half.

00:10:03: the boy was a year-and-a-half.

00:10:04: he was killed.

00:10:07: why?

00:10:08: Why is that?

00:10:09: no I mean how comes that just for this short period of time?

00:10:17: Ukrainians were killing mainly kids.

00:10:25: on the June seventeenth near Bryansk Ukrainians attacked a bus that was carrying kids football team.

00:10:37: Four boys were wounded, and an adult who was with them died.

00:10:46: Who is behind those deaths?

00:10:47: I want to show you the faces of these people whom i personally think are guilty.

00:10:54: First of all it's well-known trillionaire in this world.

00:11:02: It's another guy.

00:11:03: Show me both.

00:11:05: It's Elon Musk, who is dreaming of Mars.

00:11:10: But nowadays all those killings were done thanks to Starlink.

00:11:16: Elon Musk gave permission to hit targets inside Russia.

00:11:22: Tsarabelsk way found parts on the drone.

00:11:24: so they work with starlink and actually some other details came from Germany And another person whose personally involved in every killing under territory russia is this Alex Karp who hates kids.

00:11:45: He actually stated that he hated family, traditional families and kids And he proudly announced that Palantir Is behind every single attack of Ukrainian drones on Russian soil.

00:12:02: So here's the one who hates kid must be extremely proud Of killing russian kids.

00:12:11: personal fault, his and Ilin Musk.

00:12:15: So when you ask European taxpayers what happens with the money then says You paid for killing of Russian kids.

00:12:28: percentage of kids that were killed during last months is extraordinarily high And according to us it's not collateral damage there.

00:12:42: our kids That were killed by two meaningless punks that decided, they can decide who's gonna live and whose going to die.

00:12:55: Those two satanic creatures are killing our angels And you European taxpayers paid for their sins.

00:13:12: Just take a wild guess.

00:13:16: What are the emotions in Russian hearts?

00:13:20: when we have to bury those girls from Strabilsk in the wearing guns, some of them were planning on getting married.

00:13:38: But those marriages won't ever happen.

00:13:41: Alex Karp, Elon Musk and you European taxpayers that do think once again about your Obermansch And you can kill Untermansch In Palestine, Iran Lebanon Venezuela Russia and everywhere else.

00:14:05: What emotions are in the hearts of Russian people and Russian soldiers?

00:14:12: Don't ask for mercy afterwards And that's what I want People who do think war is far away from them to keep their mind.

00:14:30: Once again it will be May ninth And people in Germany, as in nineteen forty five will say we had no idea of what German soldiers basically European soldiers were doing on Russian soil and We have no idea about concentration camps.

00:14:49: We had No idea about satanic Hitler regime.

00:14:55: nowadays you do Have exact ideas Of what they are doing.

00:15:03: at the same time You are behind the Ukrainians.

00:15:07: And here's a payback for all of your money that you sent to them.

00:15:12: Not only North Stream Pipes, but now this political assassination in Monaco.

00:15:19: Even French press is admitting it was done by Ukrainian services.

00:15:24: Have you seen Ukrainian ambassadors being sent out from France and Monaco?

00:15:29: Germany or whatever?

00:15:30: if there is anyone at Monaco?

00:15:33: No.

00:15:35: Have you heard even one word saying that we should consider sanctions against Ukraine?

00:15:40: No.

00:15:43: Double standards, but of course!

00:15:51: It's quite emotional for us, Rocha.

00:15:54: That is why my words are harsh.

00:15:57: And thats' why when I look at polished European political leaders stating how Russia should be strategically defeated There only a question i have to ask as my grandfather My father, my grand-grandfather was asking like all Russian grandparents.

00:16:18: Where shall we bury you?

00:16:22: Why is it that every single generation of Europeans willing to die on our soil?

00:16:30: why is that?

00:16:32: please do stop until its

00:16:35: too late

00:16:37: just stop.

00:16:45: I was trying not use

00:16:47: rude words.

00:16:50: as he asked me.

00:17:01: may i react?

00:17:03: sure

00:17:05: I think you're absolutely right in putting this very clear and concerned language, of course into the spotlight.

00:17:39: It's appalling it's disgusting and I often feel ashamed as You know a swiss in the middle of all of it.

00:17:50: also As some of the utterings of my government are concerned with neutrality Swiss neutrality.

00:17:59: I'm strong defender of it, i am fully aware that Russia made huge contribution That russia As a country, as a nation has never caused us problems in Switzerland.

00:18:14: We had never a war with you and one could even argue that the Americans with their economic policies did more harm to Switzerland.

00:18:28: This is all true.

00:18:30: Again, it's important to show the dimension of war and what you're displaying here.

00:18:35: Of course is the abyss... how do we call that in English?

00:18:41: It's a terrible reality of war which of course is felt in Russia!

00:18:50: And this why I think it remarkable your president Putin in his last speeches still preserves a very disciplined rhetoric, decisiveness.

00:19:06: We might talk about it how you interpret all these things but of course we have to keep in mind that there is always another side of the story.

00:19:17: and if you show this images I can imagine what's the emotional effect on lot Russian hearts that there are also other pictures occurring and people who have another attitude towards this war than me, they would argue.

00:19:39: They'd say well... This is all terrible!

00:19:42: We agree but it was not Elon Musk It wasn't Alex Karp Who decided That Russian troops entered Ukraine This decision taken by your leadership.

00:19:59: And now one can argue what are the reasons behind these decisions?

00:20:03: Thank you then.

00:20:04: So, those same reasons will

00:20:06: be... Just let me finish the point and we'll just give it back to you.

00:20:09: And this was a deliberate decision that was taken by the Kremlin for military special operations.

00:20:17: They had their reason.

00:20:19: There have good reasons from Russian side.

00:20:22: they take very seriously but of course if you enter this hell of war.

00:20:31: This is exactly what happens, hell is unleashed.

00:20:34: and now last point... What does it mean for us?

00:20:39: What does this mean to

00:20:40: you?!

00:20:42: It means that if you are seriously interested in not letting the world explode!

00:20:51: You have somehow to bear these terrible things towards ending this hell, towards ending these catastrophe and This is the danger of moralism on both sides.

00:21:10: I mean we have guys

00:21:12: who

00:21:12: never stop accusing The Russians all day long And they are staring up hatred which is very dangerous.

00:21:20: please

00:21:21: Yeah We will continue.

00:21:23: I totally sympathize with your point but

00:21:25: I agree.

00:21:27: I agree that we have to continue, but... ...I'll take a break for a second and then will get.

00:21:32: But before this newsbreak one little question If you are the Almighty if You're The Creator if You Are God And nowadays You look from Heaven on This World Do You Really Want To Save It?

00:22:02: We'll Continue Immediately After The Break.

00:22:06: What the response will be from Ukrainian scientists?

00:22:35: So they started killing kids quite some time ago.

00:22:38: That's part of the Satanist ideology.

00:22:40: may say It is hard to believe in it, but if you read Alex Karp and what he has to say about family and kids?

00:22:49: There are certain concerns.

00:22:51: The second most important thing Is that Palantir?

00:22:56: He saying we do know where we target!

00:23:01: Thats the difference.

00:23:02: Its not a artillery shell its not cannon.

00:23:05: We do know where we go.

00:23:08: At Starabelsk, before they killed girls... They were investigating!

00:23:13: There was control in the airspace and they knew exactly who they are killing.

00:23:21: Actually as you can see there is cameras on those drones.

00:23:25: So that's when they saw faces of people they're killing at last moment.

00:23:32: so it's not collateral damage.

00:23:37: They were planning to and they killed teenagers.

00:23:42: So it has nothing do with even who started the war.

00:23:46: And I'm not killing soldiers, they made their choice To kill Teenagers.

00:23:54: why?

00:23:55: because carp and musk and a lot of others think that?

00:23:58: That's how there will affect Psychological conditions or Russians.

00:24:05: by killing very kids.

00:24:07: They will explain Russians that come on you have to stop.

00:24:13: it's an attempt of Alex cup previously philosophical ideas To be implemented.

00:24:22: only new level of technological warfare.

00:24:27: Fuck he is wrong.

00:24:29: He has no idea what Russian characters.

00:24:34: Okay, I wanted to ask questions about Putin.

00:24:37: No, but I have two.

00:24:38: I have to react to this.

00:24:39: was you saying?

00:24:40: I think your theories with all due respect is totally rubbish.

00:24:46: It's illogical, I mean if you want to terrorize the civilian population and kill kids You don't need very expensive sophisticated AI technology.

00:25:01: there are simpler more primitive means in order to terrorise the civilian population.

00:25:08: I don't believe in satanism by the way, i think this is just part of the overall craziness which occurs in war because we have the same kind of rhetoric.

00:25:18: uh...in europe they say the same thing about russia and puttine.

00:25:23: he's a devil ,he´s a satan.

00:25:26: all these crap.

00:25:27: I don't believe in it.

00:25:45: it's human beings, its human decisions that shape these terrible things.

00:25:51: You ask is the world should be saved?

00:25:55: Of course Vladimir!

00:25:56: I mean are you

00:25:57: surprised?!

00:25:58: I mean...you know history better than i do and you know the Bible better then i do.

00:26:03: Read the Old Testament.

00:26:04: You're getting me back to rainbow sign.

00:26:07: Jewish

00:26:07: people everybody.

00:26:08: we were bastards since our creation by this way a proof of God that human beings, the human race still exists because if we were

00:26:19: let alone there was

00:26:20: no God.

00:26:21: As

00:26:21: a calendar you believe in God?

00:26:25: Sure.

00:26:26: and then why

00:26:27: don't you accept existence of Satan In this case?

00:26:31: well I This would lead us now into a very sophisticated theological discussion That definition of Satan and Devil by Karl Barth, Johan Calvin.

00:26:43: It would go too far!

00:26:44: Let me bring another point... One face was missing up on the wall.

00:26:52: The most important one And this is where I think you have a very strong point Who decides?

00:26:59: who's the commander Of these attacks?

00:27:02: This is President Zelensky in Ukraine And this is something which concerns me, I am afraid.

00:27:12: I see that without Satan and God just like the pure interest... The European Union has somehow delegated its foreign policy to President Zelensky who escalates at will!

00:27:37: provoking the bear of provoking Russia with even terrible attacks.

00:27:44: I don't want to say they do it deliberately, i haven't got enough information but at... Of course there is in the interest of Ukraine to escalate this war

00:27:55: To

00:27:56: create a very strong reaction from Putin In order to show the West you see?

00:28:03: The Russians They are satans, they are devils.

00:28:06: Look at what they're doing how they are striking back.

00:28:09: now NATO has to enter the war and this is a very dangerous extremely dangerous path that these provocations can lead too And This Is Why I think it's Very Important That President Putin Keeps His Nurse Calm.

00:28:31: We Have To Go Out Of This Hellish escalation dynamics.

00:28:36: But the responsible politician in that sense here, of course is President Zelensky who has an interest in escalating the war?

00:28:46: I do not even judge it!

00:28:47: I don't even morally qualify it...I just say this is a dangerous dynamic we are in.

00:28:55: you don't need to use Satan or God to show the urgency.

00:29:01: And Russia has a responsibility too, because you escalated in twenty-two.

00:29:09: Well of course not and I probably have to give some background.

00:29:14: why kids.

00:29:17: during presidential term of Peter Poroshenko he came up with very emotional speech Ukraine.

00:29:24: it was stated that our kids will go to school On the ground floors.

00:29:41: We will have light and they won't, we'll have heat And he was stating that They were creating hell for kids of Donbass.

00:29:55: Poroshenko said

00:29:57: that He stated it.

00:29:59: That's why there is a tradition Of this hatred towards kids.

00:30:05: So its not like It came from nowhere.

00:30:09: Secondly When the war started of fourteen, it was quite obvious that we were dealing with completely different religious groups.

00:30:24: And when you are speaking about settings as just an expression what we figured out back in twenty-two?

00:30:33: That ideology over a lot let's say ultra radical groups was a mixture of national socialism and satanism.

00:30:49: With icons, with cults ,with tattoos... ...with all those absolutely theatrical deeds.

00:31:02: So when I'm saying these words it's not just a phrase.

00:31:08: It is an analysis of information that we are gathering about groups like Azov, like Tarnada and a lot of others.

00:31:20: They have their own certain cult that they followed.

00:31:27: And in Ukraine it's part nowadays very specific culture with a lot devil related activities With witches.

00:31:43: It's incredible, but even now with Mindich Gate and all those high rank officials in Ukrainian it turned out that they had the fortune tellers, mind-tellers, witches who were doing rituals going to this cemetery.

00:32:04: So absolutely things you start reading have a feeling there must be completely nuts from middle ages like its not happening.

00:32:12: But that's the reality of modern Ukrainian political circles.

00:32:18: It is incredible!

00:32:20: They go to this cemetery and they dig a ground from the grave currently dead, people bring it there do all those things... ...that are complete madness.

00:32:36: Complete madness but thats the realty they live in.

00:32:42: That's why when I'm using those words satanism, it is not a manner of speech.

00:32:49: It just the consultation effects.

00:32:52: The weirdest one – Yermak was deeply involved into satanic cult

00:32:59: doing

00:32:59: all these witchcrafts with specially trained witches that were influencing decisions on Whom should be working for the Ukrainian government in what position?

00:33:16: It's complete madness!

00:33:19: And now when you are saying that Zelensky is controlling Europe, yes he does.

00:33:25: But no one is asking questions – how come?

00:33:28: How comes people who were ideologically saying we're hired by taxpayers of Europe have come and they aren't ruling anymore… In the interest or for the interests of Europeans?

00:33:44: But they are working for the benefit of extremely corrupted regime that you don't want me to use them Nazis.

00:33:52: but look at what modern Polish political leaders are saying.

00:33:56: They much more agree with me than would you so?

00:33:59: So, they do see Nazis in Ukrainian government.

00:34:02: and when he is saying that whether I have To say my theory is rubbish because it's extremely expensive.

00:34:09: I have to disappoint You.

00:34:11: The FPV drones they cost almost nothing.

00:34:15: It's extremely cheap.

00:34:17: Its much cheaper than even sometimes traditional weapon that been used.

00:34:24: So it doesn't cost much.

00:34:27: But in Slavic, so there is a huge place for kids Huge Place For Kids.

00:34:38: What they are doing right now?

00:34:40: They're trying emotionally And the Zelenskyi state on this.

00:34:44: I am bringing war back to Russian people.

00:34:48: We want Russian people to suffer so they will come to Putin and tell him to stop the war.

00:34:53: And that's what Western propaganda is also trying to claim, vice versa.

00:34:59: We are after all this telling Putin only one thing No mercy.

00:35:09: we have to win this war no mercy!

00:35:12: And Putin by the way he extremely let me put it as much less emotional than most of us But he loves kids.

00:35:26: He is doing a lot for Russian families, we have the best working system of supporting families and childbirths And it's important as far as we are concerned.

00:35:40: Actually you should pray that Putin stays as long as possible because people that Let's say work for Putin some of them they're not pro-democrats Let's say not pro-Westerns, we have those as well.

00:35:57: Comprador shit.

00:35:58: all the exist in our country but a lot of guys are much harsher... Much

00:36:06: harsier.

00:36:08: My point was my speech in Germany.

00:36:11: I was saying that referring to you.

00:36:15: By the way just a sec let me show it because its with subtitles.

00:36:44: I'm not sure.

00:36:49: Let me just read the... The subtitles.

00:36:52: So what was saying President Poroshenko, then you'll have the exact knowledge of Ukrainian thoughts because we will have jobs and they will not.

00:37:01: We will have pensions And They Will Not!

00:37:04: We will care for our children and retirees...they will not.

00:37:09: Our Children go to school in kindergartens.

00:37:11: Their kids will sit on bomb shelters basements..They don't know how do anything.

00:37:17: This is How We Will Win The War.

00:37:24: That was their idea since two thousand fourteen.

00:37:32: So Zelensky just inherited this attitude from Poroshenko.

00:37:41: What's your assessment now of the Putin speech via president and the interviews he gave to Russia?

00:37:48: one?

00:37:50: To my colleague Pavel Zarubin, yeah

00:37:53: Yeah right.

00:37:54: what is... The most important takeaway that the Russian excuse me the European audience should take from these speeches.

00:38:04: And the second question is, do you think it's really necessary for Russia to escalate war into Europe?

00:38:16: Because as far I see We have a lot of development at the front line.

00:38:22: The Russian troops are standing in front of the gates of Kramatorsk, they've entered Konstantinovka.

00:38:29: It seems not to be true what some especially German newspapers are writing endlessly that you know... They're knocked down.

00:38:37: there's no progress and battlefront.

00:38:41: How do we see future for this war?

00:38:43: And how does he assess Putin's

00:38:45: speech?

00:38:46: Exactly.

00:38:50: Are the journalists there?

00:38:52: The overall mainstream thinking that Russia has a lot of problems and the front line, but it's obviously

00:38:58: not true... Well I just visited one Russian military troops for last month liberated three hundred square kilometers.

00:39:16: It is toward Kharkov Liberated from Nazi the land of Kharkiv-Gubernia.

00:39:24: Konstantinovka is almost finished, the announcement will be in a couple days as well as Krasniliman.

00:39:30: every single day almost every single they were announced for liberation.

00:39:34: yet another point Ukrainians cannot even mention one single little village where there are that they liberated.

00:39:46: why those kilometers?

00:39:49: Every week I'm going to the front line and talk with our guys, see what their situation is.

00:39:55: They were stating that they are killing more Russians than signing with a military – it's complete bullshit.

00:40:02: not even close!

00:40:03: The exchange of bodies shows we kill times more then Ukrainians….

00:40:10: The situation on the frontline is absolutely controlled by Russian troops and we're advancing in every single direction And President Putin showed that he knows exactly what's happening and he controls it on a daily basis.

00:40:25: So, he does know pretty well... ...and we have lots of ways to even look at the Ukrainian sides!

00:40:31: They were told not show their exact location.. ..and now they are stating that Pakrovsk and other places had to withdraw their troops.

00:40:43: It is bullshit.

00:40:44: I've been there in December.

00:40:46: It has been liberated for like half a year and only now Ukraine says, oh by the way yeah we've lost those cities.

00:40:52: I have been there with my own legs...I know what i'm talking about.

00:40:57: The German guys had no idea.

00:41:00: Putin first of all is not affected by recent events Yeah?

00:41:08: There's problem with gas.

00:41:10: We'll solve it.

00:41:11: Yes!

00:41:12: There are problems with civil infrastructure in Crimea.

00:41:15: that has been hit Will manage.

00:41:20: We have our targets and everything will be completed.

00:41:25: We won't stop, whatever you are trying to do we'll just bring the hardships on those that are fighting us If Europe doesn't understand.

00:41:36: And if we have too Will have take measures Why not emotional?

00:41:42: We're extremely pragmatic.

00:41:45: Where winning this war?

00:41:48: It has zero influence On Us.

00:41:53: What you have to yell, what they have to lie.

00:41:56: What do we have to say?

00:41:59: Unrespected Ukrainian officials We consider a bunch of terrorists.

00:42:05: You're not legitimate force.

00:42:08: You are not the legitimate voice of Ukrainian people.

00:42:11: You are terrorist and Europe.

00:42:13: make up your mind as a part of negotiation, as mediators.

00:42:28: You are not.

00:42:31: you're the site on this conflict.

00:42:32: but Putin is saying we always open for honest and free negotiations.

00:42:41: Do you think?

00:42:41: For his purpose he have to read what it stated And realize that's it!

00:42:48: It will be as was stated before.

00:42:52: Take it or leave.

00:42:56: You said to me in our first interview that you criticize your president every day, and do think he is too restrained on this war.

00:43:05: Do you still think so?

00:43:08: Are you disappointed by the speech of Putin?

00:43:10: No!

00:43:11: I am

00:43:13: not dissapointed at all because i realized first ofall... ...he has much more info than I do And his level of responsibility is times higher.

00:43:23: So.. I do realize it.

00:43:26: You know, a country shouldn't be run by journalists, cab drivers and singers.

00:43:35: Don't

00:43:36: underestimate the journalists!

00:43:38: After

00:43:39: Mussolini it's hard to understand all of their problems that they create...

00:43:42: He is an exception who confirms his rule.

00:43:44: but let me ask you another thing.

00:43:46: what concerns me at this moment?

00:43:50: But I will definitely destroy All the infrastructure of those cities that are used as a base for military attacks on Crimea, Belgrade and Bryansk.

00:44:05: I will once again make an announcement For civilians to leave these places And they'll completely wipe them off.

00:44:16: Now let me ask you

00:44:17: Americans by doing this same thing without telling civilians

00:44:24: You know what concerns me at the moment is if I look a bit in the future What is coming out of all this?

00:44:31: Let's assume Russia achieves it looks like these all its military goals.

00:44:36: They get on bus.

00:44:39: you Know they do.

00:44:40: Ukrainian army cannot cannot resist.

00:44:43: we have a situation.

00:44:46: Well, what's happening then?

00:44:47: i mean Is there going to be an end of the war, or are we embarking on eternal conflict?

00:44:55: I mean if Russia is achieving its goals.

00:44:58: There's no need for escalation into a world-war but... If the West continues….

00:45:04: As far as we're concerned

00:45:06: You know this thing because you see such an intense European, at least rhetorical determination to stop Russia or fight Russia and bring a strategic defeat which Russia cannot accept.

00:45:22: What do you think will happen if Russia achieves its goals in this war?

00:45:29: Have these goals changed?

00:45:30: Will they say now that we have

00:45:33: to

00:45:33: advance further?

00:45:36: We don't know why!

00:45:37: We never wanted to take you.

00:45:39: This bullshit was in the head of American administration.

00:45:43: What's their purpose?

00:45:45: To take Kiev to do what?

00:45:49: It is absolutely... it's modern warfare, completely different!

00:45:55: You have hundred and fifty million Russians.

00:45:57: why we need to control twenty-five million Ukrainians when they deal with people that are willing become our citizens by not planning to conquer anyone or stuff like this?

00:46:09: Putin never claimed them.

00:46:11: Yes, for the military purposes we can go and do certain things.

00:46:16: But what happens afterwards?

00:46:18: We stated it in December of twenty-twenty one.

00:46:21: Putin sent a letter to NATO countries into United States where will raise concerns about our security for years to come.

00:46:33: That's about that.

00:46:34: Our goals are extremely easy to understand and accept But you invested heavily into this war, will be able to stop after all the investment has been made?

00:46:52: That's a question for our next discussion.

00:46:54: Unfortunately... The time is so cruel!

00:47:01: Thank You Roger So much.

00:47:02: Today I was not even using any harsh words.